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No matter how many times you move him, he will not be satisfied. He's safety should be your FIRST priority . Put him in a facility and let him adjust . Weather he gets comfortable in his new environment is up to him. I can understand if he has dementia... But honestly, like I recently accepted with my own mom, you can't make your father happy. He is where he NEEDS to be. It may not be what he wants, but it's what he needs. Know that he is safe and move on. If it's too much, try just visiting once a week. Because honestly, your health and sanity matter too. Once a week is good in my book, expectantly if the family member and the patient can't be together long. I worked in nursing homes, as a CNA . Most family members NEVER came back, or if they did, it was once a year, during the holidays. The staff will understand why you can't visit your father everyday. Let him adjust, and not have you there all the time. That's what I'm doing with mom... she may not be happy, but at least I know she's safe.
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Good Morning,
Reading through the answers I was struck with something that happened to me and my Mom.  We were having a discussion about her and dad going into AL.  She did not feel she needed that much help.  I told her the preparations were all set,  All they had to do was sign up!!  After a couple hours of back and forth, just discussing still,  I told Mom she had a choice...to which she quickly replied 
"Good.  I choose to stay here!!!"
NO, I said you have the choice to be happy that you and Dad will be in a safe place with some one else doing the cooking and cleaning and watching after Dad  (he wandered).  OR you can choose to be miserable
over there in AL and make everyone else miserable, too!!  She did not have to give it much thought at that point.  My Mom was a sweetheart,
and Yes, she chose to be happy!!  She knew that Dad was getting too much for her and she sure wanted to be where he was!   I will always be thankful for her sweet sweet spirit, even when she did not like what was happening to her and Dad!
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Mikuhatsune01 Aug 2019
No matter how many times you move him, he will not be satisfied. He's safety should be your FIRST priority . Put him in a facility and let him adjust . Weather he gets comfortable in his new environment is up to him. I can understand if he has dementia... But honestly, like I recently accepted with my own mom, you can't make your father happy. He is where he NEEDS to be. It may not be what he wants, but it's what he needs. Know that he is safe and move on. If it's too much, try just visiting once a week. Because honestly, your health and sanity matter too. Once a week is good in my book, expectantly if the family member and the patient can't be together long. I worked in nursing homes, as a CNA . Most family members NEVER came back, or if they did, it was once a year, during the holidays. The staff will understand why you can't visit your father everyday. Let him adjust, and not have you there all the time. That's what I'm doing with mom... she may not be happy, but at least I know she's safe.
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He wants his health and independence back - who can blame him! - but no move is going to make him 20 years younger and reverse the ravages of time. They say getting old isn't for sissies, truer word were never spoken.
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Accept that he is not going to be happy regardless of what you do. Do what keeps him safe. Learn to be okay that he is upset. If he does not have dementia, then it is his choice to be upset regardless of what you do. You can not please him. He does have so many difficulties that I can understand his complaining all the time, but you have to know that you are never going to stop him from complaining.
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Thank you all! I have been ignoring this for quit some time and I do leave when he mentions moving. This is the first time he has called my son, this takes it to a new level! We are not moving him and I will talk to the people in charge and tell them to ignore it if they get a notice from him saying he is moving, this has happened before but new people are in charge now so I better do it again. He is so stubborn and has always been in charge and gotten what he wants, really makes it hard! Will just take one day at a time!
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anonymous912123 Aug 2019
You nailed it...he has always been in charge, and thus it will always be a tug of war with him, it is his way or the hi way. Moving your father 8 times is just plain crazy....stop letting him manipulate you.

No, is No, cut back on visiting him, let him settle in, if he doesn't that is his choice.

Your family needs to be on the same page, have the same boundaries, so that Pops learns he cannot divide and conquer.
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"My dad is 95, legally blind in a wheel chair and lives in assisted living..." on top of "he has two hip replacements that have worn out...He also has an aortic abdominal aneurysm" He's delusional!

Stop engaging him. When he brings up the subject, end the conversation with something like "Dad, I love you, you are safe here, and I have peace of mind. Let's talk about something else". If he won't drop the subject, find an excuse - "I have to bake cupcakes for my tea cozy knitting circle" - and leave.
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sbgsteiff1, even if your Dad does move to a house, he won't like it there, either. The proof is you have moved your Dad eight times already. Seven times too many. How is he going to get use to a facility?

The fact that Dad is in Assisted Living already says loud and clear that it takes a village to help him. And it is far less expensive being in Assisted Living then hiring around the clock professional caregivers. My Dad had 3 shifts of caregivers and it was a whopping $20k per month in my area. And don't you become Dad's full-time around the clock caregiver. Otherwise, your Dad would outlive you as you become overwhelmed with all the work and stress.

Time to bring out the "theraputic fibs". Too bad your son already told his Grandfather that one of the rental properties is available, otherwise a fib would be "sorry, both houses are rented". Your son could use stalling fibs by saying it will take months to get the permits to fix up the house.... supplies are on back order... it's taking longer then I had planned.

So starting today, take a deep breathe, and NO MORE going over ideas on how to make a house ready for Dad. It's not going to happen. Yes, Dad will grumble, and he is just being a normal elder as pretty much everyone in Assisted Living wants to go home because they are in denial of their lack of ability to do things.

And it is time to cut back on visiting Dad. Dad needs to learn his way around the Assisted Living area and make new friends. He can't do that if he is visiting with you. I had to cut back when my Dad was in senior living.
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sbgsteiff1 Aug 2019
Thank you so much! My son really had to tell him it was not rented or pay him rent each month! He did say it would take a long time to get it ready. He would not socialize even if I were not there, they have tried and so have I to get him to go to activities, I have even gone by myself thinking that would get him to go, did not work! I will try not to go as often. I just wish he would realize how lucky he is to live in such a nice place with his dog but that is not going to happen. He cannot move by himself but it really is sad that I have done so much for him and now I am the bad guy for making him stay there! He even told my nephew that my son would move him but I would not let him, just breaks my heart. Nothing more I can do, he is in a good place, getting the care he needs, I just need to try to not let it get me down.
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Thank you for your reply. No he does not have dementia, getting a little forgetful, though but not bad. At this point he could not even get in the house there are stairs or the shower, it would have to have a new walk in shower instead of a tub combination. My son did tell him it would take long time to get it ready. Not only that but the last renters had bed bugs, just left, even the furniture, it has to be treated before anyone can even go in there. It is also in a really bad part of town and not even the town we live in! He wants to move often but he has never called my son. A year or so ago we visited with his doctor, he was no help, all he said was that it would be short lived and he would need assistance. I do have a call in for the nurse to call me, thought I could meet with him and explain about the insurance and his inability to even use a microwave, he will do anything the doctor tells him. Also, he handles his eye sight very well and acts like he can walk fine when he is there. When the doc tries to show him a lab report, he does say that he cannot see it, otherwise they seem to forget he is legally blind. I do not think the doctor realizes what he cannot do! This really puts my son in a bad position, he is a people pleaser, always tries to make everyone happy, he takes after his mother! My daughter just called, I think his memory is worse than I realized, I did not think she had been visiting but she said she had and was just there and she does not think he knows who she is, never calls her by name and says things that don’t make sense. He never tells me if someone has visited so maybe he does not remember. One time, I guess he thought she was her daughter, of course he cannot see but she could not convince him that she was his granddaughter. This is even harder than dealing with my mother’s dementia, she was always so sweet and appreciated everyone so much. Thank you for listening!
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AlvaDeer Aug 2019
As I said,I would have ZERO to do with this; would not even discuss it,and would get family members not to as well. I would encourage all to walk away as soon as this is mentioned. He wants to do this, and is OK to do it, fine, then. DO it. But do not, as Cali says, act as his accomplice in his own downfall, and tell him gently, flat out, that you will not.
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You don't say if your Dad has any dementia. I think the one thing you must NOT do is a single thing to enable him to move back home. That means no stair rails, no NOTHING!
Given that stepping away I doubt that at 95 your Dad will be able to go home being for the most part incapable of self care.
Sometimes there is nothing you CAN do. You likely will not get guardianship even if you apply for it if your Dad is mentally capable. Step away would be my advice. Tell him that you will not assist in any way in enabling this, nor will you assist in getting him readjusted when he must return to care.
Good luck. If you did mention he has a dx of dementia, I missed it. If that is the case he needs guardianship at this point, whether by you or court appointed is up to you. It's a lot of work and trauma.
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worriedinCali Aug 2019
I agree with this wholwheartedly. Step away. It’s the best thing you can do for him. Don’t be an accomplish and help him, it will be disasterous and you will regret it!
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