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On the news last night, a 91 year old woman crashed her TESLA in a traders joes parking lot killing a person, and sending at least 2 people to the hospital. When the airbag deployed she got out and asked what did I do?

When my friend saw this, she said she is glad that she stopped driving. She did this on her own and she is 98 years old..
this poor 91 year old has to live with the shock knowing that she killed a person and hurt someone. Authorities believe, and they will get more info when the go through the TESLA's black box, she was going around 50 miles an hour when she hit the people. what a sad and unnecessary tragedy for everyone . when you see your elderly LO's drive, please do observe their driving. Do they have good reflexes? Do they still know the laws of the road? Are they OK to drive?

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Years ago when I moved interstate I had to take another written test to get my license. Just moved 88 year old brother in law. Really shouldn’t be driving but husband is taking him for new license just so he has ID. All that is required is a vision test now. Does that sound safe?
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MAYDAY 5 hours ago
I pulled mom's license at 85 when my brother told me to. He is a retired fireman who has seen a lot of accidents with elder people.. most of them were considered their fault, DUE TO THEIR AGE.

He doesn't need a drivers license for ID.

STATE ID is sufficient enough.

accidents happen, and some folks get very stubborn about these types of issues,
Hope your family agrees he is ok. We all age differently
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This is very individual but there’s also no denying that reflexes slow down with advanced age. I regularly rode with my dad to assess his driving and never saw any sign for concern. He was also self aware enough to limit himself. On his own, he stopped driving at night and limited how far he drove, stayed in familiar areas. I don’t believe the keys should be taken randomly, but if there’s legitimate concern, of course it needs to end. We’ve seen too many come here cowering in fear of standing up to a family member with dementia over driving. It’s sad no one looked out for this lady, she and the people she hit deserved better
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Just want to say, Doctors seem to be reluctant to take licenses away from patients. I would call DMV to see what type of test they give. I think once someone is diagnosed with Dementia they loss their licence but States seem to be slow in doing something about it. We had a police officer in town who knew his Mom had ALZ but could not get any entity to take her license away. Unless, she was in an accident and ALZ was the cause.
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BurntCaregiver 18 hours ago
@JoAnn

Since the Covid shutdown states have gotten so relaxed on enforcing any kind of traffic laws that it's become dangerous. People drive like they've lost their minds. Not just elderly people who should have stopped driving.

There has to be some connection to states refusing to revoke a drivers' licenses and insurance companies making RECORD profits off of elderly drivers. The insurance companies have got to be kicking up to someone in state government.
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There's a story of 80 yr old lady hit two school children who had the crossing lights and crossing guard motioning them to cross.
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[ Moderators, please relocate to Discussions, thx ]

You can take your senior LO to an appointment with their primary care doctor specifically to discuss driving. They can order a Virtual Driving Assessment through the OT Dept. For my Mom, when it was clear she was in denial after this visit, her PCP ordered this Assessment for her. My Mom threatened to not attend the appointment. But I pointed out that if she thinks she's a good driver then she can easily prove it at this appointment and then everyone would leave her alone, including me.

She went to the appointment. It was a MoCA test for executive function (judgment) and a physical reaction test (tapping where lights would light up on a large board which measured both her physical movement and reaction time. She failed badly. The OT was the one to break the news to her, not me. The report went to the PCP (who is a mandatory reporter) who then sent it to the Dept of Public Safety who then mailed out a cancellation of license.

My Mom was still mad at me and still drove for a week after the appointment. She hid the letter so that I had to call the DoPS to send out a new one which I intercepted and showed my Mom. Then there was a battle to sell her car: she hid her car title and keys. We never found the title but then a year later found 1 set of keys thrown under her kitchen sink cabinet. All a hassle, but it got the job done.

"Taking away the keys" should not occur as a spontaneous drama but as a planned event. If there's no question about the safety of their bad driving then the PoA (who hopefully activated their authority) will remove the keys discretely or/and disable or remove the car. If the PoA isn't active the elder can legitimately report vandalism or theft of the car. Before removing car and keys, the PoA or spouse should try to find the title and all other sets of car keys.

There have been several posts on this forum about an impairment elder parent calling up the dealership and ordering another set of keys (and those FOBs are expensive) or going out and just buying another car. More than once. This is 100% legal since it is not the responsibility of any car dealer to assess someone's cognitive level at the time of purchase.
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