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Hello - There are several issues to consider here. First of all, if this woman cannot walk, does the person who normally cares for her do this alone? I ask because my mother cannot walk, and she has carers come in three times a day to get her up, washed, dressed, etc., toileted mid-day and back to bed in the evening. If this person genuinely cannot walk, then two people will be required for moving and handling issues. So the next question is does she have such carers and will this care plan remain in place when you live-in? I have no idea how much you should be paid according to any local laws but I can give you my experience of buying in live-in care for my mother who lives with me in London, UK. UK agencies which provide fully-approved (police checked) live-in carers for people such as myself who need a week's respite every now and then, charge approximately £100 for a 24 hour period, so for example, a 7-day holiday requiring the carer to move in the night before I go so I can do a proper hand-over, costs around £810, but the agency takes a big cut of this and the live-in carer only receives around £450 of this fee. I have used one particular agency and checked with the carer and this is common practice. Now, I by-pass the agency and hire the carer directly. I pay her a lot more than she would get by going through the agency, and less than I would pay the agency. We agree on a fee of £610. She is happy with this and I have discussed the amount with the other carers who come for regular daily personal care. This live-in carer basically becomes me for the week, so the other care plan stays in place. Obviously you will have to do the exchange from sterling to dollars. I think if you're offering a live-in service, you are responding to a definite need, and as someone who uses such a service I can tell you that I really appreciate the lady who comes to do that for me, and that before she comes we create a timetable of when she herself is going to be relieved. That's essential. Good luck.
A friend who just hired live-in care for her father is paying $200 per day. The person lives at the home 24 hours a day for 12 consecutive days, then has two days off. Having the same person at the home day and night has provided more consistency than having different people in and out all the time.
Just for reference, directly paying the caregiver 610 sterling for a week of care is equivalent to $1,024.80 US dollars. Paying the agency 810 sterling is $1,360.80, with the agency getting $604.80 and the caregiver $756.
I think some employers see "room and board" as partial payment for services and I disagree with that sentiment, unless the caregiver actually moves into the home making it their permanent residence. My employer doesn't charge me or reduce my wage for showing up at the office!
Double, LOL. You mean your employer doesn't charge you for desk space?!
So many families run into the issus of charging room and board even to a family member. Yup, this is my case, sibs that do nothing to help mother with resources don't want to pay me. Every proposal they have made includes deductions for room, board, utilities, gasoline and on and on. Sibs do not want their inheritance that is tagged for mom's care first. Brats!
I am with radiator and assandache, I work 24/7, no real days off unless one of my sibs comes over for their once a month visit and NO pay. I wish that I would get enough balls to bill my sibs for my Mothers care. As it is I am using my social security to pay for a lot of her living expenses even though she has more than enough money in the bank (much more than I will ever have) because she is always crying "poor." That depression mentality stuff which I get really sick of since there are truly "poor" people in the world and my family is very lucky. Minimum should be $800 a week with 2 days off.
I gave up work, benefits (health insurance cost ME $800/month now, vacation and sick days) added increased water, sewer, electricity, and food bills. I am compensated for those losses from my Dad's money at $2000 a month. He lives with me. Before mom died, she also lived here. I think I break even-ish, and am glad my Dad has the funds to do this. Respite in assisted living was $6000/month, and a 5 day, three night respite with in home care $2000 +
My mom was in independent living before she came to live with me. Her expenses ran around $1,500 to $2,000 a month. Once she moved in with me, I completely took over her care so the money she was paying to the facility for room and board comes to me. It helps offset the electric bills (she wants her room very warm so I have a little heater in there), special food, meds, clothes, etc. which are actual expenses and gives me a little to compensate me for taking care of her. She's okay with it and I am too. If she had nothing, I would still do it for nothing, but some day, she will need to go into a nursing home on Medicaid so her assets will be taken by Medicaid before Medicaid kicks in. They have a five year look back so you can't give her money away to get her qualified for Medicaid. So, you can either get reimbursed for some of her expenses now, or let Medicaid take it when she needs to go to a nursing home, which will, unfortunately, happen at some point.
A&A, Hadenough, Radiator, me and there are many others out there that don't get paid. And parent has resources. Siblings are more concerned about inheritance left for them. That is what is occurring in my case in spite of siblings knowing parent would want to pay me. This is long, hard work. Siblings have always said that parent would want to pay me, but since it is interfering with their inheritance, thus their plans for retirement, it has become a matter for the courts. Sibs have even told others that they know Mom would want to pay me. They know Mom has always wanted to remain in her home, terrified of nursing home which is what it would be if I was not here. So, now siblings spend Mom's money to retain attorneys to argue what they know Mom would want. Make sense yet? Of course not!
I always ask those like Charles if he has provided 24/7 care for a parent. It is hard never ending work. Charles did you give up career, benefits, your own family to care for a parent. Until you and others like you walk a mile in our shoes you should not be judgmental!
By paying a relative to care for a parent, you are SAVING THAT PARENTS ESTATE tons of money. Negotiate from there. Get an estimate of local NH or Assisted living situations and compare to what they could save by paying you.
Is the person you are caring for a relative? Is there no one else to care for her? You have to count room and board as something which would make a wage lower than if you lived at home and came in for service. I live with my father and I don't charge anything for caring for him. If you were living at home, in a rural community the hourly rate (average) would be $10.00, however you have to take into count the clients income, how much you are doing daily and room/board. You can also get help with in home services if you need a break. Call the Area Agency on Aging or Bureau of Senior Services. You didn't give a lot of info so it's a bit difficult to be more specific.
Terry- Is living in your dad's home worth $6,000.00-$12,000.00 a month? At $10.00 a hour one day is nearly $250.00 a day, at $8.00 an hour, nearly $200.00 a day. If he rented out the room what would he get for it? In my area for a room maybe $400.00 a month. Huge difference there. And board? I purchase all the food, so no deduction there. And I also have my own home which I pay mortgage on.
I pay my grand-daughter-in law $15 per hour for helping with my mother & cleaning her bath, changing bed linen and washing it for mother and mani-pedi. She is a CNA and makes that at her regular job. She only works about 8 hours per week though. I have an ex-sister-in law who is willing to stay Friday night to Sunday night for $250 and do some house work as well. That seems like a bargain to me. She would not be living in, rather coming just for weekends.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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First of all, if this woman cannot walk, does the person who normally cares for her do this alone? I ask because my mother cannot walk, and she has carers come in three times a day to get her up, washed, dressed, etc., toileted mid-day and back to bed in the evening. If this person genuinely cannot walk, then two people will be required for moving and handling issues. So the next question is does she have such carers and will this care plan remain in place when you live-in?
I have no idea how much you should be paid according to any local laws but I can give you my experience of buying in live-in care for my mother who lives with me in London, UK. UK agencies which provide fully-approved (police checked) live-in carers for people such as myself who need a week's respite every now and then, charge approximately £100 for a 24 hour period, so for example, a 7-day holiday requiring the carer to move in the night before I go so I can do a proper hand-over, costs around £810, but the agency takes a big cut of this and the live-in carer only receives around £450 of this fee. I have used one particular agency and checked with the carer and this is common practice. Now, I by-pass the agency and hire the carer directly. I pay her a lot more than she would get by going through the agency, and less than I would pay the agency. We agree on a fee of £610. She is happy with this and I have discussed the amount with the other carers who come for regular daily personal care. This live-in carer basically becomes me for the week, so the other care plan stays in place. Obviously you will have to do the exchange from sterling to dollars. I think if you're offering a live-in service, you are responding to a definite need, and as someone who uses such a service I can tell you that I really appreciate the lady who comes to do that for me, and that before she comes we create a timetable of when she herself is going to be relieved. That's essential. Good luck.
Just for reference, directly paying the caregiver 610 sterling for a week of care is equivalent to $1,024.80 US dollars. Paying the agency 810 sterling is $1,360.80, with the agency getting $604.80 and the caregiver $756.
I think some employers see "room and board" as partial payment for services and I disagree with that sentiment, unless the caregiver actually moves into the home making it their permanent residence. My employer doesn't charge me or reduce my wage for showing up at the office!
So many families run into the issus of charging room and board even to a family member. Yup, this is my case, sibs that do nothing to help mother with resources don't want to pay me. Every proposal they have made includes deductions for room, board, utilities, gasoline and on and on. Sibs do not want their inheritance that is tagged for mom's care first. Brats!
If the family is already shooting you in the foot, let them price nursing homes. The money is not theirs and probably won't be.
I wouldn't agree to paying rent.. *crew that!
I always ask those like Charles if he has provided 24/7 care for a parent. It is hard never ending work. Charles did you give up career, benefits, your own family to care for a parent. Until you and others like you walk a mile in our shoes you should not be judgmental!
You have to count room and board as something which would make a wage lower than if you lived at home and came in for service. I live with my father and I don't charge anything for caring for him. If you were living at home, in a rural community the hourly rate (average) would be $10.00, however you have to take into count the clients income, how much you are doing daily and room/board. You can also get help with in home services if you need a break. Call the Area Agency on Aging or Bureau of Senior Services. You didn't give a lot of info so it's a bit difficult to be more specific.
Is living in your dad's home worth $6,000.00-$12,000.00 a month? At $10.00 a hour one day is nearly $250.00 a day, at $8.00 an hour, nearly $200.00 a day. If he rented out the room what would he get for it? In my area for a room maybe $400.00 a month. Huge difference there. And board? I purchase all the food, so no deduction there. And I also have my own home which I pay mortgage on.