So many of the questions and answers on this site have helped me to understand better how complicated care for a Dementia patient can be and have answered many of the questions I had. However, I've not seen any situations that relate to one of my major problems. My wife refuses to leave the house FOR ANYTHING! She has not been to the doctor since the onset of this terrible disease. We've been able to get prescriptions, for her incontinence, via telephone visits with her PC MD. We were able to find sources to provide the two C19 boosters at the house, and my health insurance is trying to find a medical practice, in their network, that will make house calls. However, my wife has glaucoma and has to see the dentist as well. Are there any suggestions as to how to handle this problem.
Telehealth is a great alternative for some things. I am glad that you were able to utilize those services.
Eye doctors and dentists are a different story. I don’t see how it would ever be practical for them to make house calls.
Unless she is complaining about her teeth. I don’t think that I would push the issue. Same with the eye doctor. My mom was relieved to be on hospice after going to numerous doctor appointments.
Going to the dentist takes a lot of time and energy for an older individual. My mom was completely exhausted when she went for a cleaning and routine visit. After awhile dental visits became too much for her to handle. Do you think your wife is up to sitting in a dental office that long?
Best wishes to you and your wife.
I agree with what someone else here said…do this at last minute, so she can’t dwell on it.
Does she give any reason why she won’t leave the house? What does she think will happen?
Yes to what another said…dementia patients seems to mirror what they feel/see in others. If you tell her you need help, maybe shell go with you. You can inform the Dr about this in advance, so it can “seem”, like you are the focus of the Dr rather than her.
If you can’t coax her to help you at the Drs, then I’d speak with Dr and also a social worker to see how to proceed.
This dementia is so darn tricky! You are at your wits end and then have to smile, be extra patient and play games to get cooperation. But you do have to do these things. Anger and frustration only beget the same.
When she has phone or online Dr visits, does the Dr tell her she needs to come into the office? Could the Dr convince her to come in?
You will be able to get her to a Dr or a Dr to her. Please post here when you do so that others will see what worked for you.
Wish I had a good plan for you. Please keep us posted. Good luck!
So many thoughtful people on this site have given me the same advice as you about maintaining my balance and how to react to the changes in moods - which is one of my major concerns; don't know who I'll be dealing with from hour to hour.
Thanks again, I really appreciate it.
* If you are the POA, you can possibly do more (not sure). Could you tell your wife you're going for a ride or somewhere she'd like to go and then take her to the MD? If she has dementia, she will likely forget afterwards.
* Some of her behavior could be depression; she may need medication or medication changed.
* Glaucoma and the DDS ? Do you mean optometrist? or both eyes and teeth?
* Try googling locally for MD house calls. Are you able / willing to either change your insurance or pay out of pocket for house call?
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https://doctorondemand.com/what-we-treat/mental-health/
Ask for a psychiatrist (Geriatric specialist if possible) and ask about the nearest psychiatric hospital.
I know you said you are not ready for MC but please do your research on nearby facilities now. You have to take care of yourself because you are your wife's rock.
You have to pick your battles with care - I don't this tooth brushing would be one I would fight in the scheme of the larger picture but check this out with the new found house call practitioner.
One of the doctor's I worked with said one of his dementia patients, in one of the last somewhat coherent conversations they were able to have, described feeling like he was on a high speed railway train --- he could see the blurred countryside and he couldn't understand the language being spoken by anyone on the train. Scares the heck out of me without having dementia but it gave me insight into what a patient might feel.
Wishing the best for you and yours!
You are also a person who deserves some semblance of living without also being a 24/7 caregiver.
Here are some thoughts:
1. Have your wife assessed by hospice for potential admit to hospice care services; hospice is about living with quality of life in midst of a life limiting illness , not about dying. If hospice care services are supporting your wife ( and YOU) in your home, they can assist you with in home services that remove the need to go to doctor appointments etc. They also provide 5 day respite care for the pt. cared for in a facility different intervals to assist the PCG ( primary caregiver/ YOU) to have a much needed break.
They can also assist you with potential decisions about placement of your wife in a memory care ( or other) appropriate facility.
As her PCG and POA you may want to also consider what would happen to your wife 's care needs if you should become ill or otherwise unable to continue 24/7 care ?
Safety and long term as well as short term needs/ decisions for her well being as well as yours may be conversations you want to have now while you are competent and capable to make the decisions for yourself and your wife.
Her refusal to leave the home and other behavior changes will only increase in challenges.
Do not feel guilty about these conversations or decisions. Do not try to reason with her ( or anyone) who has been diagnosed with dementia; they are not capable and you will only end up frustrated, anxiety provoked and further discouraged. If you have adult children or other family who may need to be included in conversation please do so but also do not let them nor anyone make the decision s for you. As for dental care, speak with her PCP ( primary care physician) for recommendations. Remember that special consideration needs to take place with not only transport of a dementia pt. to appointments but also what dentists can best serve safely a dementia pt.
Please seek consult with PCP, speak with local hospice of your choice or PCP referral for information and, if you practice a faith, be sure to have the pastoral support for yourself on a regular basis.
Blessings and peace
Thank you for the kind words.
The mood swings were the hardest for me. However, reading the comments from others in this forum have helped me understand and how to accept them, I hope.
I don’t know how or when you tell your wife she has an appointment but these doctor appointments are important so perhaps a change in the timing and presentation of the notice will help. Also maybe do the same thing and rather than taking her to an appointment take her out to pick up lunch that you can then eat in the car in some quiet maybe favorite spot surrounded by nature or go for a drive and that’s all so she is safe while having an “outing” then when and if she starts enjoying these outings again do it after a trip to the doctors so there is some time to relax away from home first. My brother often takes my mom out for breakfast now (she will go into her favorite diner to eat pancakes) or they pick up sandwiches and park on her favorite street (it’s surrounded by woods and she used to rescue turtles crossing the street there) to eat them in the car. For my mom the biggest factor is anxiety, she gets so anxious over everything, especially when she can’t really process it or is afraid she won’t be able to and of course the more anxious she gets the less she is able to process so whatever we can do to lessen her anxiety we do. It’s an ongoing and ever changing process just like her go to food is and keeps us on out toes! At least it’s never boring this venture of dementia. Good luck, I really can commiserate.
And with her condition she is confused easily so leaving home , things seem so unfamiliar which is scary.
Talk to her dr about this. Is there calming meds? Talk to a counselor, are there ways to speak with her or prepare her for a trip outside?
Your wife is very lucky to have a husband that is so kind and willing to help. It’s obvious to me how deeply you love her.
I don’t know how you have the stamina to be a caregiver at your age. You must be exhausted when the day is over. Are you able to get some rest at night?
You sound more ‘with it’ than many younger people.
Have you contacted Council on Aging in your area? Explain your situation to them. They should be familiar with various services that are available in your community. They can also come to your home and do a needs assessment for your wife and she may qualify for receiving help, then you can take a well deserved break.
My dad hated having strangers in his home, but he eventually agreed to have someone come in to help bathe her and other things.
My dad died at 79. You are older. You are going to need help. My step mom is in a memory care facility now. She is happy there. I am not sure the she understands her husband is dead.
Maybe find a memory care facility near your home so you can visit often. Or find a facility where you can go together, all your meals are prepared and they’re doctors that come to the facility.
As to having my wife go to an AL facility, even if both of us go together, that's my last option. I just cannot think of her alone in a strange location and I am not ready for that, for myself either.
This is one heck of an adjustment and I'm just now, after one year, realizing the extent of the responsibility - the pressure, the extra responsibilities, etc. However, I also understand that there is only so much one person can handle and so many others on this site have given me good advice what I should do as to hiring help. It is something I will no doubt have to do, regardless of the opposition from the patient.
Thank you again for taking the time to respond, it's been most helpful to find this site and knowing that there is a place to come to when help is needed.
I think you need to do what I did with meds for my mom with dementia. Since you can't trust her to do it or even to know if she took her eyedrops, etc., it is time for you to take full control of it. Be like a nurse in the hospital. Bring her her eye drops and tell her it's time for her to put them in. That's the only way you will know that it is done.
Most people don't want helpers at home. Well, too bad. I NEEDED help and drew a line in the sand that I was NOT adding more tasks to my day as her needs increased. I said nope, I'm not cleaning her room and changing her sheets when she could no longer do it. So I hired (with her money) a cleaning lady to take care of these things (and more). That could be your first helper - a cleaning crew to take care of the house.
Then get an aide in there to help YOU make breakfast, get your wife in the shower, dressed for the day, clean up a little, play a game with both of you and then you can start right away with extricating yourself once they are engaged with something. Say you need to run to the store or do an errand or whatever. Even if it's not 100% true, leave for half an hour. Then extend it, etc. Your wife will adjust. My mom did NOT want helpers here but she quickly depended on them and realllly liked them. We were very lucky to have some awesome ladies helping her out!
Best of luck. Keep posting and asking questions and getting the support you need!
Bless your heart for caring for your beloved and being so tender and concerned to not upset her. You may need to begin to rock the boat a bit in order to save yourself from caregiver burnout that can literally take your life.
The teeth cleaning is a battle not worth fighting, let it go and simply keep her teeth and oral health up as best you can, a waterpick setup helps.
What you truly need is for someone to come in and sit with your beloved for a few hours so that you can get outside and do things for yourself. I'd start introducing a person or two now because as her dementia progresses, she'll become more resistant to any changes and the battle will be a war. You cannot bow to the rigidity of her broken brain, you have to be the one making these decisions and if some things upset her, understand that even if she sulks, it will pass. You're caring for her out of love and when that love is at the heart of decisions, you're always right to facilitate her acceptance.
The Glaucoma is another one to weigh. Although she's always taken her drops and says she is now, I doubt it. Many use 'nanny cams' to see what is really going on and it would be useful to place one in front of the vanity mirror where she doers her eye drops. My Mom (now 88 in a MC unit) began flat out refusing them and when I talked with her about it, one time she was completely honest with me. When I once again explained that she needs then to be able to see clearly, she stated: "I don't want to see clearly." That was reasoning that I had no argument with because with all of her losses, the need to withdraw is completely understandable.
Dementia brings a whole new standard of 'normal' to everyday life and you need to remain as active and engaged as possible and you'll not be able to bring your wife along with you, hers is a different path now.
Perhaps it's time to consider moving from your home to an AL facility with options for advancing care so that you can still do meal prep if you wish or dine with others, whatever you choose. An AL would allow you to engage socially while she would be safe and you'd have back up for the times when you need to have your own time.
These are the tough times. I watched my parents go through these early changes and then we lost my Dad to Covid and everything changed. Please start to make arrangements so that if something happens to you, your beloved won't be left to others' decisions, however lovingly made. You're very much at the helm now and have the time to carefully consider and choose between options for change.
Best -
Like the others have said, you'll need to pick your battles with your wife when dementia is running the show. I'd also suggest you hire someone to come in to give YOU respite, b/c burnout and compassion fatigue are real (look up compassion fatigue on Google). You can't expect to do caregiving 24/7 and never give yourself a break, or you can wind up dying before your wife does (God forbid). Don't become a statistic. Hire help instead, and use common sense since your wife is unable to nowadays.
What I'm wondering is if your wife's agoraphobia (Fear of leaving the house) isn't a sign of agitation and/or extreme anxiety brought on by her dementia? I think it warrants a call to her doctor to ask about prescribing a mild calming medication to see if it helps her.
My father had very serious glaucoma which required ONLY the use of eyedrops (a few different ones) that kept his eyeball pressure controlled. You may have to use a fib to get your wife to the eye doctor by telling her Medicare requires a trip to the doctor once a year in order to keep the insurance intact, or something like that. Promise her ice cream afterward, but call her doctor FIRST for calming meds, that's my suggestion.
I suggest you read this 33 page booklet (a free download) which has THE best information ever about managing dementia and what to expect with an elder who's been diagnosed with it.
Understanding the Dementia Experience, by Jennifer Ghent-Fuller
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/210580
Jennifer is a nurse who worked for many years as an educator and counsellor for people with dementia and their families, as well as others in caring roles. She addresses the emotional and grief issues in the contexts in which they arise for families living with dementia. The reviews for her books are phenomenal b/c they are written in plain English & very easy to read/understand. Her writings have been VERY helpful for me.
There is a full list of Do's and Don'ts in that booklet that you may find helpful when dealing with your wife on a daily basis.
The full copy of her book is available here:
https://www.amazon.com/Thoughtful-Dementia-Care-Understanding-Experience/dp/B09WN439CC/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2E7WWE9X5UFXR&keywords=jennifer+ghent+fuller+books&qid=1657468364&sprefix=jennifer+ghent%2Caps%2C631&sr=8-2
Wishing you the very best of luck with all you have on your plate.
I have attempted to hire professional care givers. Had a representative from a local group come to the house to evaluate and discuss arrangements. Ready to sign the contract when my wife says NO. She will not agree to anyone coming in to the house, not even a person to help with the cleaning and housework.
As to the glaucoma; she has been on drops for years. My concern was that she now will not be getting her annual check up, to see if the pressure is increasing or if the drops are sufficiently affective.
Again, thank you for all of your suggestions. I feel much better now that I know there are people like you, who understand and are available, to answer questions for a novice at this caregiving position,
Check with your wife's primary doctor to see if there is something he would recommend to help her be calm enough so she can visit with her doctors. At least be able to visit in person her primary doctor, and later possibly see her Ophthalmologist to get treatment for her glaucoma.
Has covid frightened her, as it appears the dementia caregiving started just a year ago, and covid is going into its 3rd year. Just a thought.
The Covid has had no affect at all, no concerns on her part.
Your wife has dementia, and there is no happy or good outcome with it.
My late husband who had vascular dementia didn't like to go places either, and eventually it just got too hard for me to take him out, so I stopped trying. It wasn't worth the time or the trouble.
You're doing a great job caring for your wife. Just remember though that you now have to live in her world as she can no longer live in yours. And in her world none of the things you think are "important" are important to her.
God bless you as you continue on this journey with your wife.
In your case, you need to accept that you can only do what is do-able. In reality, will she be able to accurately answer questions about her her vision to the eye doctor? Or dentist? Will she stay in the chair and cooperate? As time goes on, the answers will be no, due to her dementia. Bless you for taking such good care of her and wanting the best on her behalf. Everything about dementia is hard.
Thank you again for your input, it is helpful to know there are others who can provide advice and support.