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Didn't know I needed to know that was my tag line. Now I go to seminars to know what I need to know before I need it. How do you prepare for future changes, and am I the only one that "didn't know that was going to happen"
I would like to know why when a prisoner is release from prison he automatic receives cell phones medical insurances dental ins and a host of other benefits and our aging people have no such options???
Austin, every state has an ombudsman. Go to www.ltcombudsman.org and type in your state, or go to your state's Web site and look under aging services. This is totally unacceptable. When my folks were in a nursing home, fluid above all else was encouraged. Even when there was no appetite, it was, "What kind of juice would you like? Do you want a cup of coffee? Tea? and of course water." Always water (fresh) by the bed. To be told this is "silly" is an affront to all the home should stand for. I generally advise working kindly with the staff, but this is horrible. An ombudsman is independent of the home or any agency. Please keep us posted on how this goes Carol
PS - bed sores shouldn't happen. They need to be turned every two hours or more
Just now I discovered something that might help others. I was having problems with the nursing home rehab the husband is in. To make it short he has passed out three times and was taken to the local hospital and admitted twice-yesterday was the thrid time and the ER always says it is from dehydration-they do not give out fresh water daily and it is true he should ask for it but at least once he was told they were busy and not to make SILLY REQUESTS. I did call the nursing home last night so they could educate their staff and the supervisor quoted me his I and O- INTAKE AND OUTPUT for the day. Well today I went to the hospital and he said the water in the bucket was from the day before and they made up the intake and output-after he left at 3pm to be taken to the hospital. Today I called to find out the name of yheir ombudsmen and was told they did not have one so I asked to speak to the supervisor while I was waiting to hear back from her I put the nursing home's name in the computer and up popped their last inspection and their deficiencies which were bedsores and the spread of infections they were 2-3-and4 4 being the worse. So before anyone plans to put their loved ones in a nursing home besides it being close enough so someone can go in often just check out their inspections it was so easy even I was able to do it BYMYSELF.
Carol, our community is thriving! (At least for seniors, and caregiving services available...) Is this not true in other communities? My Mom was in a different county, and there's tons of programs and services there, as well. All our seniors are WELL cared-for, housed, and fed through these programs. Is this a fluke in these two areas or our state? Some of these programs are also federal, and we don't go without any good thing. I don't understand the struggle here. We have more than we need, and some to choose from. The greater the need, the greater the care and services available. Certainly it's not an isolated benefit for my family, is it?! There certainly are services available, but perhaps not the cash some are looking for...?
One of my answers posted too quickly. I was going to refer PCVS to www.govbenefits.gov and/or www.benefitscheckup.org to see if her mother qualifies for more benefits.
There are many options available for you. And many seniors have great care due to the programs out there. But if you want government assistance, you'll have to send Mom to a government facility. They won't pay a private family member to care for Mom. They have to be able to regulate things. That's fair, I believe. When parents are impoverished, the government will help. I mean taxpayers. But a taxpayer won't hand you their hard-earned dollars to be a caregiver. That would not be fair. There are day programs, Home Care Nurses, and other helps available. Each county/city/state is different, so check with yours. You have to declare all Mom's assets, and she has to have below a certain amount of money in the bank to qualify. But that's the only way the government will or should help. If family wants to do it, they will have to fund their personal choices by working part time jobs, or whatever. The government is not going to pay family members, because there is no way to oversee if someone is committing fraud or not, unless they have direct involvement. It is a protection for the government and for the senior. I understand you are spending your time, but we (taxpayers) can't pay you for that. And we are the government. But if Mom can't afford to eat, she won't be left to starve. You say you can't afford a nice place, but there are wonderful facilities out there for Mom that the government programs will fund. You just have to do the legwork. I did, and our Dads are doing great!
I have no insurance and I am a self-representing artist with very little income. But I am living with my mom in her house so that she can stay there. Because, honestly, there is no way we could afford any place nice for her to live if she couldn't live in her own house (my sister and brother both have very tiny houses that are hardly even big enough for them and their families.
Taking care of my mom is becoming my full time job and I have not heard of any programs in the state of CT that can help ease the burdon of her care. In fact it seems as if it's getting harder as medicare, connpace and other gov't health assistance shrinks what they will cover.
Great advice, Chez. In many states the program is called SHIC (State Health Insurance Counseling). Other states have different names. The Medicare site above is good, or else just type in your state name and find the main site. This will lead you in the right direction and you'll find a phone number.
Here is some real help with real people that not only have the answers, but are willing and able to go after the result. In California we call them HICAP, Health Insurance Counseling and Advocacy Program. They are the only people that truly understand the maze of insurance, and how to win. Also the Council on Aging is a fabulous resource! These are free resources and available to anyone who is caregiving or over 65. I have used them repeatedly with clients. They even understand and have won appeals with the VA when benefits have been turned down. In CA, they run a series of free seminars, check them out in your state it is so worth it. http://www.medicare.gov/contacts/static/allStateContacts.asp
Welcome Annlidiot, I don't think you're missing anything...yet. But the day will probably come when you realize you are missing 'a life of your own,' the one that you used to enjoy very much before taking on the role of caregiver. I think the options for good home care are hard to find because very few hired/paid helpers can have the care and concern that family members have. And if you are lucky enough to find help that you and your elder are comfortable with, it is very costly. I used to have help that I hired through a friend of a friend. She was very good to my grandmother but it didn't take long for the costs to add up. Once a personal relationship/ friendship was set, it didn't take long before good will was taken for granted and then outright taken advantage of. I tolerated it for a while because she made my grandma happy and I didn't want to deal with a 'hissy fit' because I changed grandma's routine. Then I tried getting a service to come in - but consistency is key. It was a disaster when they tried to send someone other than the regular. I currently use a cleaning service to take care of household chores, and they only say hi and smile at my grandma as they clean around her, but even that was cause for a feud. She claims to be 'set in her ways' and I'm being generous to merely agree with her description in this post. She is my full time job and some days she makes me nuts, but not enough to put her in a home...well, not yet. Though to be honest I must admit I do think about it often and there was one day I actually visited nursing homes in my area.
PS- Figuring out that insurance stuff is fun isn't it? Not!!!
I'm new here and am a bit confused. My parents organized everything in advance to be taken care of at home comfortably. They did the same for my grandparents and so on. Why aren't there as many options for good home care as there are for assisted livng and nursing homes? I joined to find out more about juggling housekeepers and insurance, but everybody seems to be putting their parentsin homes. Am I missing something?
I'm not running away these were my plans before i stated taking care of her. like i said she has 4 living children. i just feel like i'm doing my part now while i'm still in the state. thats the reason when i do leave here, she's going to live near her other children. Trust that i'm doing reserch. you all have a good weekend i don't have time to turn on the computer at home only to do homework. Yes my plate if full.
There are some assisted living centers in my area (I spoke at one where the food was so good and the apartments so nice that I wanted to move in) that are as nice as any retirement community, and better than most. They are expensive.
But as Chez says, getting people out to actually look at some really nice places is helpful. I realize not all areas of the country have top grade assisted living centers. But things are improving. One size doesn't fit all, either. There are options in private homes as well as those attached to nursing homes. However, there are some that offer only assisted living. It's good to look around well ahead of the time when a move is needed. Of course, we don't always know.
Rather than wait until 2011, why not spend a few minutes and learn what the options are. For most seniors, they have not got any idea what assisted living is like now. Each state has the Council on Aging, and HICAP. The benefits available are wonderful. Rather than run away, try educating not only yourself, but grandma, and the rest of the family now. Education about aging and options are available for free through seminars, open houses, resource placement. We are all terrified of change, and alone it is a daunting experience. Moving past the denial and into solution is freeing, and enjoyable. You may even find that grandma will be much happier to be a participant than treated like a child and told. Stop dumping and start planning. You will be her soon enough, and what will you do.
thanks so much Carol, i know i have to do something she has her oldest and a few grand and greatgrand that live in the same area, thats where i'll move her, they will do what they have to thats one reason i don't have a problem with leaving her with them, it's her. how is she gong to take it. As they say it is what it is. your right i cant be held hostage but my heart is havey. right now nobody can do for her like i do, so she thinks.
You are right that you need to live your own life. If she has four children, when they are called upon (as in you are not doing it all anymore) someone will come forward. They are taking advantage of you. If you do it all, they don't have to. Let them know that you will be moving, that Grandma will need a place to live and that it's their responsibility to take care of this.
Grandma will fuss, but if you find a good place, she will adjust. Visit as often as you can to help her with the transition. Turn it over to her children. You can't be held hostage.
I'm not sure what you saying, put i plan on retiring in 2011, and if my grandmother is still living, i have to place her in some type of care. I'm thinking it will be a nursing home of some kind. Shes not going to like it if she in her right mind. But my husband and i are thinking about moving to another state. My husband thinks i'm taking her with me but i can't. I want to start living my life. she has 4 living children. i'v been doing this for the last five years. it's time for someone else to take a turn. That would be so hard on us if we move to another state were we no, no-one. I don't know whats going to happen. i know i should not be thinking about it now, but i do. This is going to be a big change for her and well as myself. How do i start reparing her for this. I talk about it from time to time. she says that right you have to live your life, just put me in a place she says, but when she acting out and tell her that i'm going to put her in a place, she not willing to go. she tells me i don't love her i don't want her around, and starts to tell me about what all shes done for me. So whats going to happen when she has to go?
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
C.
APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
E.
This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
Carol
PS - bed sores shouldn't happen. They need to be turned every two hours or more
Carol
Taking care of my mom is becoming my full time job and I have not heard of any programs in the state of CT that can help ease the burdon of her care. In fact it seems as if it's getting harder as medicare, connpace and other gov't health assistance shrinks what they will cover.
Take care and good hunting,
Carol
PS- Figuring out that insurance stuff is fun isn't it? Not!!!
Carol
But as Chez says, getting people out to actually look at some really nice places is helpful. I realize not all areas of the country have top grade assisted living centers. But things are improving. One size doesn't fit all, either. There are options in private homes as well as those attached to nursing homes. However, there are some that offer only assisted living. It's good to look around well ahead of the time when a move is needed. Of course, we don't always know.
Carol
We are all terrified of change, and alone it is a daunting experience. Moving past the denial and into solution is freeing, and enjoyable. You may even find that grandma will be much happier to be a participant than treated like a child and told.
Stop dumping and start planning. You will be her soon enough, and what will you do.
BGB
Grandma will fuss, but if you find a good place, she will adjust. Visit as often as you can to help her with the transition. Turn it over to her children. You can't be held hostage.
Take care of yourself, too.
Carol
BGB