I have probably overused this very helpful site a lot lately. So sorry for that. But my Alzheimer's dad was put in nursing home a few days ago (looking to maybe move him to memory care) but I have called every morning to find out how he did overnight, etc. I think the nurses have sounded a bit annoyed by this. Maybe it is not customary to do this. Perhaps they assume that they will call you if something is wrong. And I guess for my own benefit, the reason we pay to have him there is so people take care of him and I don't have to be worrying all the time. I cannot call my dad as he is not cognitive enough to answer phone and talk. What do people usually do on this? Perhaps I am being overly hovering.
First, her dad is in a facility that is not specialized in memory care and he has Alzheimer's, so he may present the staff with challenges they don't see often. Second, it's the first few days, not after he's been there for weeks or months.
The medical staff answering phones run the gamut as far as their attitude, in my experience. I'd say 95% are really nice. A big "thanks so much, I know you are busy, but I just want to make sure he's settling in ok" goes a long way, and avoiding any questions about what the staff did or not do. Instead of "did he get his dinner/take his pills/get a shower" ask if he ate well, or did he give you any trouble with taking his pills today? The suggestions other have made about knowing when shift changes are and avoiding those times are good, as are asking for a call back at their convenience.
After having my dad and uncle in and out of over a dozen facilities, I would most definitely be calling for updates in the first few days. Everyone needs an advocate, but especially those compromised cognitively. I wish facilities had a better way of "on-boarding" new residents and their families.
Karsten, I hope your dad settles in comfortably. He is the "customer" at the nursing home and you are his voice. He's a lucky man to have you looking after him.
Micky
Wear a facemask if you think you might have something that could be spread, but LOVE and attention are more important than nursing care. What do they have to "live for" without it?
They also cannot verbalize any problems they are experiencing either, nor can they verbalize neglect or abuse!!! If you "Love" someone and you are not just getting them out of the way, you must be vigilant about what is going on with their care. Nursing care is no replacement for the love they need. Healing fails when there is no love.
I know this from first-hand experience!
Though I employed the use of an Ombudsman who took me to several nursing facilities before I decided on one, he also told me that patients who do not have family visiting them on a regular basis are more likely to be the victims of abuse.
I found my life got to be hectic an I failed to visit him very often.
I feel major regret and cry every single time I think about my own neglect of my father and not knowing what he may have been going through. He died alone in that nursing home and no one there had anything to say.
It has been over 25 years since his death and when I think about it my gut hurts and I cry and tell him how sorry I am for just putting him somewhere and neglecting him, (which I am certain was the major cause of his decline)
The Truth may be uncomfortable for "some" people but my intentions are meant to help people avoid possible loss and regret. I happen to care about the Aging and NOT just their EMPLOYEES who are PAID caregivers. Why not watch some undercover camera footage of "caregivers" on Youtube? How do you know what goes on when you are not there?
If you visit regularly then there is no need to call at all unless your LO has been ill or if you have to curtail your visit do to your illness [NEVER VISIT IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE THAT YOU HAVE A VIRUS, COLD ETC. THAT COULD BE SPREAD] - I also call if I'm going to be away for a few days to insure they know where I'll be - I will call today because the denturist who makes house calls will be there at 4:00 & we need her out of bed & awake
Now my 2 cents on your question, I haven't read through all the responses here the way I usually do but it didn't take long to see some varied opinions. We are all at different stages and on different journeys with our LO's and even though many things look similar no 2 stories are identical and of course where we are in the journey, our relationship with our LO, our experiences and our lives, personality, who we are all shape our answers to these questions. With that said IMHO you should not feel badly calling to check on your dad and if the staff is making you feel uncomfortable about it there is a problem with the staff or the places policy and you should talk to someone in charge about it, the person who showed you around, sold the place to you. Yes your dad is the patient but a caring family is an extension of that patient and as important to his care and health as anything else. This is a brand new transition for everyone and my guess is you have been doing a lot or all of the care and worry for your dad, it's perfectly natural that you would want, need to check in daily maybe a couple times a day for a while as you both settle in and it could very well come in handy for the staff as they get to know him as well if they care about making him as comfortable and at home as they possibly can. Afterall you know far more about him and the things that do or don't work for him and knowing you are anxious to share and be involved (which they do based on your morning calls) clears the way for them to ask about little things whenever they want, not all patients have families that want to get questions about what makes dad happiest they are more interested in simply knowing his basic needs are met and safety is secured and as long as he isn't being abused don't really care how that's accomplished. That sounds more harsh than I mean it too, I learned years ago that families and the way they handle these medical and caring for parents things differ. My family bands together and rushes to the bedside to care for the sick or injured person, that's the way we were trained. My husbands family goes about their lives and one person keeps tabs on how the patient is doing and then passes it on to the rest. They visit when they can and the one person is in more direct contact but the patient is left alone with hospital staff, after all there are tons of people around, for the majority of the time/day, even in the ED in the case of my FIL! It was bizarre to me at first but I came to realize it's all about training, what we saw growing up when family members got sick, it's not that they care any more or less it's just what they know and therefore expect.
My guess is you will feel less need to call each morning as he settles in, as you both settle in but you should do that at your own pace. It will happen naturally as you feel secure and he feels more comfortable and it wont feel like you aren't ready or worse like you are abandoning him to some degree. Yes we all know you aren't abandoning him and everyone is absolutley right this move gives you more time for yourself and freedom, it takes the physical need for keeping in touch away but that doesn't mean your emotional need isn't still there and very real. Just because you don't have to doesn't mean you, don't need to and you should do whatever it is that you need to for yourself and for him. They (the facility) are well paid to take care of your father and by extension that means informing you as much as you need (within reason but you are a long way from exceeding that), the very fact that you are questioning if your a nusence says to me that you wont cross that line so let yourself off the hook and go with your gut.
Any questions or requests I make are met with a brief "we"ll look into that or I"ll tell the girls to do that" Well guess what nothing happens.
In the process of getting him transferred to a proper rehab facility further away but they are dragging their feet. Dr only showed up yesterday and has to send recommendation but he only dictates his notes so wait for transcription. Send to new facility, they request approval from Ins co. The new facility was ready to take him five days ago!!!!!!!!!!
As far as calling every day unless your loved one is seriously ill I would not do it. All facilities are seriously understaffed these days and many are so dispirited they call in as often as possible, so every call takes away from patient care especially at week ends. Find out what time the shifts change and call a couple of hours after that if you need to.
When you visit make sure your loved one is being properly cared for and then find the RN and address any issues.
Try and deal with any issues you find yourself. For example I have clean my husband up a couple of times and when his water jug was empty went to get it refilled myself rather than wait the 1/2 hour it takes to get a bell answered. be as helpful as you can to the staff and they will be appreciative and more responsive. I don't suggest you have to change dirty diapers but as a retired RN it was no big deal for me and I had the satisfaction of knowing the job was properly done. As most of you know it is a minefield out there.
DD just called and she is lighting fires at both ends to try and hurry the move. She does not take no for an answer. She employs 40 people and if someone steps out of line they are out the door especially with patient care even if the the patients are all of the cuddly furry kind!
When they facility knows you are there all the time and are calling they are going to watch out for your loved one more. My Dad has been in a Memory Care Facility for over 3 years and I have noticed the residents whose family is there really get taken care of not to say if you Rent there they don’t but I see what’s going on for example. Doors get left open and things are removed by other residents. My Dad’s door remains shut because they know I am there all the time. I see things that others don’t because they are not there and when I a, there I do speak to the nurses, his caregivers and the director and i find out things I would not have.
Good luck and keep on top of it and don’t let anyone intimidate you into not calling or visiting.
Sue G
The responses on here that say you can call as much as you want are not wrong, but Old Bob and rocketjcat have given the best advice.
Consider that if the person you are calling has only 25 minutes a day to devote to each patient, do you want to take up some of your dad's personal attention time to reassure you that all is OK?
Because you are there, you will soon know if the care he is receiving is good; and, if it's not, your calling every day is probably not going to make it improve.
You: Hi, just checking in on Mr Bloggs, how is he this morning?
Nurse: Oh yes he's doing great/he's fine/he's just finishing his breakfast/he had a good night/we're keeping an eye on him... [select at random]
... you are wasting *your* time.
The nurse, that is, will not have a clue which patient you are talking about. And unless it becomes necessary to continuing the conversation, trust me, she is not going to bother figuring it out, either - she will just use whatever neutral to positive formula gets rid of you quickest.
If there is anything important to report, they will call you. Call them only if there is something they need to know, or something specific you need to ask.